not all thoughtful educated cultivated
self display is enlightening
to
"others"

conviction over evidence

us over them

race oval over think quadrangle

what bland broth this boils up from

then again

I Kant was DOCTOR Conventional Wisdom PHD too

i'd rather see green here with his doeskin gloves off
not
parson fairplay with a doctorate in econ con

...
"Senator Obama and Speaker Pelosi appear willing to spend up to $50B in taxpayer funds to buy the votes of auto workers in Ohio and Michigan"

rusty
u amaze me some times

50 bills --uncle borrowed --
is chicken feed

"It is a rewording of the old objection "uppity" used re blacks."

not so sure ....

yes the Pap like
' uppity N in a clean white shirt ' trope
may fit his wife's initial
white gal cat yowl reception
but
--- as with c powell's quite different "act "and visage---
ob's himself has teflon
uppity
puttin on airs
those types of "white loser projections"
don't reflect back
off
his kool sincerity and mild motions
nice sunday ride from hick shack
to housing project

but then your density express
seems to de rail :

"What also happens is that meritocracy becomes more prevalent as opposed to other rules for recognition
...When (and if) the Chinese model of authoritarian capitalism wins the US urban liberal democrats will be angry too, but it won't really be about "values"

if density begets meritocracy

what begets chinese authoritarianism ???

too fast transition
from feudalism to the future
or is there
such a thing as
too dense
for liberality
we get along the poulation density axis
a hump function for individual political "freedoms"

all very 18th century rational enlightenment
don't you think
that is
untill the mob enters stage left

...
kharris
beware conventional thought on conventional thought

fad thought of course is only the influenza stage of CT

my take
real stuff inevitably happens
when the two wings of conventional thought
like in a cyclotron collide with each other

as to the generative source
of ll our heterogenious
and mutually contradictory
patterns of conventional "thought "...
we might spend a few decades on that project

...
the thinker "class"
has a power elite too ..no ???
kharris
"Power elites must, almost by definition, propogate views and make decisions based on their own and their constituents' interests, where as the intellectual elite, almost by definition, must apply reason to a body of fact and theory to make decisions."

think factories are not yet the norm
in many humanist fields
mostly still a cottage industry

think tanks still use collegial model
unlike say..
our news orgs which are well
along the way from the grub street
to the fact messaging factory model

...
"One think you don't see my Party (the Republicans) doing, is getting mired in intellectual self-criticism.)"

in the prescriptive words of danton

in politics it must be

"audacity ....always audacity "

one might suggest lenin
as well
as reagan here

...
laff
i just read
your comment above
and with an ever broadening grin

at the end
i looked like the joker
jalrin

i find the stars and bars
"a symbol" among lower order whites
of popular rebellion

okay so the real deal was a fabrication
of slave holding planters and their bag carriers

the celtic cross is the hick swastika

from my experience
most blacks ---of job class station---
have very little truck
with
star and bar burners

ps the naval flag bit is correct

its all too well known
that the star and bar element
adorns many a dixie symbol field

yes
the cotton south has a keen sense of class conflict
and when not aroused by bloody flap doodling
cross race class solidarity too..

its equally well known
the poor record
of class organization ...is the beautiful product
of 100 hundred years
first of pure "top down " civil terror
and later in addition
trans legal petty public enforcements

both were duck soup
south of washington for too long indeed

terror has its class side obviously
as well as its race side

the song of the south
makes for great fiction
but tragic history
...
nb
the above comment was me as laff

...
"... I doubt seriously they (the founding 'patriots') would picture themselves as elitists"

elite and elitest laff
check out the '87 con con talk

the yeomans tribune jefferson
was far from a bryan or even a jackson
so where does that place the rest of em
resentments come at all levels
even intra ivy
i was rejected by harvard
and had to settle for ...columbia
whilst 25-30 of my class mates
better spellers and swifter readers all no doubt
got in

ecce moi...

my cankered soul flew all the way to mao tse tung

...
as with contradiction within the body
of conventional thought

mutual steroetyping leads to collisions
often fruitful collisions

is that so wrong ???

the cult of the we all be unique souls
leads directly to the dark side of buridan's ass