"if we were living in a socialist paradise
with absolutely no evil capitalists
promoting wars for general profits
or overseas resources...."

but we don't

and until they're gone

i'll blame em for everything

its a very effective first approximation

the bastards in the towers
are behind everything

its how
how the whole gig operates

there's a set of profit dynamos
buried under all this flim flammery

hell
the national security state
only exists
because "they" needed
a greater haul out of everyday income
to support
"their"
over seas projects
europe being by itself quite enough
to propell a nat security state
and a unitary prez state

the torch was past to us after all
by the brits
as
protector of the right to be me
for all god's good little private profiteers

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max:

nothing "abstract" at all about saying
the ultimate dynamos are our trans national corporations

its a conjecture

pointing right at real entities

its a working paradigm for research

its
a generalization
to be sure

a theory of everything big
and able to leap broad seas

but go out
and disprove it

my humble head remains open

and it ought to be possible

nothing circular here

in an open world like prez wilson got us to fight
the germans for
i say prove me wrong

such a conjecture can be tested
open cleo's records

starting with say the cleveland administration......

"you gloss over
the malignant outlook towards national security
which is economic and political
underlying military adventures"

max that sentence is so compressed
it stumps me as to its purport

so .i'll just say...right on mate

we fight under the same flag....for the moment anyway ..heh heh

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cob writes

"the fact that
you pointed out the difference between
a war for power
and a war for "economics"
was important in itself
though it may take people
a long time to understand the point"

i'm still working on it myself cob

exconomic explanations
tie into real lives

are the bushco cadets on a power trip??

maybe ..but who's backing em

is this a rogue regime??

are cheney's pals

in the energy game

on a power trip too

into jack boot thrills

or is it
a blend of motives here ???

and my conjecture
the decisive one
is really quite rational

iraq is a very nice place to control
if you want to run pipelines up into central asia
menace the uiranians into submission
to ...get at their resources
and secure the flank of the gulf arabs...resources

and the cost to them once their in the cat bird seat
in the white house

well its leveraged off us sucker tax paying jobbled stoopnagles

beyond the trill
of mayhem
and control
brought to you
by
gun point power

ther comes
.....economic benefits

reason not power freaking
abounds behind
the fearsome
death's head

guns are a short cut at best

a bad choice at worse

but the great game goes on
either way

playing it hard or soft

wars of empire come and go

but corporate profits are forever