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hitler or luther

the euro parallels
to the islamic fanaticos ???


i say its
the reformation era

not
the concentration camp one


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here's a clue

why not get the right time period for your parallels
in the civilization kampf


this islamic radical popular reaction
to "changing social conditions"
ie the commercialization of everything
the oppression by the " technoid foreign devils"
of the soulful community of us
and even within us
the private expolitation of the many
by the few
is better seen as
an analogy to 16th century europe
not 20th century europe

"thank god they've got the koran
not the free booting meme cauldron
of weimar germany "

luther attacked jews too....big time
pinky | 08.02.06 - 10:02 am | #

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m freeman
babel had a single target too

the big capitalists and their corporations
thats pretty simple

this wonderful quote packs a great deal of meaning
but it needs to be carefully deployed
or the wheels within wheels
fine structure gets rcrunched up

take the word fools

this is fools
as in fools vs knaves

naif tripped up

not innocence in the sense
augustine scoffed at
but rubes inexperienced
unexposed rubes
and
as rubes
prey to the carny

these aryan oafs
are the ignorant tricked not the stupid

there is nothing one can do about stupidity

however
there's no claim to inordinate
agnostic complexity here either

take this simple flip of a switch agitprop

from NSAP brownshirt rohm to DPK apparat

just one substitution leads to a full morph

where you see jews replace with
monopoly corporations

if you want to nationalize a working class
use the the jews among us

they are totally removable
with out a threat to "the zystem"
in fact
there are benefits

note also
whats so often remarked apon
but
left hanging without its obvious causal implications
about internal vs external
factors

the fundy movement
way back when
was the lesser evil
and
was cultivated
with its rich anti jew veins and all
by forces of the "west"
to counter what else
an arab ...nationalism
that was still liberational
not pathological

just a reminder of the obvious
pinky | 08.02.06 - 10:28 am | #

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to actually respond to the post better

i find the melley drama

a self serving merit klass fairy tale itself

like

the silent majority
prefers security to freedom

the familiar ritual
to the happening

take farakan
he's a story teller...right

the anti black microbes and all

but it's servicable as mteaphor isn't it ???

again read martin luther
the jew as fiend is not a ugly excresence
its integral to his dialectic

unless we are to put hitler and luther
in the same cell in hell

whats missing in adolf that is present in martin ????

conspiracy theory
is politics by poetry
but so is theogony

ugly or liberating

and to end on the polemic

to me the anarcho-pluralist
narcotic
"there is no totality"
is for us
the free thinking creative klass types
the main internal danger

errrrrrr

t'is it sin ???
pinky | 08.02.06 - 10:39 am | #

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pinky, there is a totality.
It just can't be summed up in a slogan.
Sandwichman | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:01 am | #

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pinky: the fundy movement
way back when was the lesser evil
and was cultivated with its rich
anti jew veins and
all by forces of the "west"
to counter what else
an arab nationalism
that was still liberational
not pathological "

This is the theme of Robt Dreyfuss' The Devil's Game

nell


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sandy
ya but
the best of me
can be summed up in 2

" compress stretch and twist the fucker
till it pops at its internal contradictions "

" no one expects the cultural revolution "
pinky | 08.02.06 - 2:26 pm | #

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nell i visited your
blog site

great stuff
of course i have adhd
so i can't figure how to make a comment

at any rate

the kold war cultivation
of
the clerical movement
here and there
through out sunni arabia
by imperial occidentals
only looks dissasterous
to those imperial interests
now
in the fullness of time

hey
just one of those back fires
that ended up worse then the original

but you can't make movements from the outside
u can only destort them
the real issue remains the spontaneous
reactions to massive
internal upheavals
as this very stable traditional society
got and gets mangled by
globalizing capitalism

my point of comparison
is to undemonize this reaction
and show its progressive aspect as well
hence
my use of the 16th century europe

huge differences

yes of course

like the capitalization of china
has huge differences
from europe too

lets not talk of any iron law of stages here
let alone one for oner mappings

but its my estimation
that the reactionary reformatory zealots
of the 16th century
were
part of the progressive process
then
and like wise
the muslim brother hood is now

to shift to the shia sub world

the islamic revolution in iran in 79
was the greatest progressive event
in recent times
for all shia communities world wide

let me be doubly pedantic :

progress is done history's way

not ours

even if its made out of humans
done by humans
and to humans

its the for humans part
that seemto require job like wisedom
to grasp


doubtless this is why
faith is often said to require blindness

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ps

you wanted to be pointed to scholars

sorry i got no stinky scholars
just a bad memory
of old newspapers
and a few books

all of which
have melted into a lump
like descartes wax candle
pinky | 08.02.06 - 2:50 pm | #

NOTE I DIDN'T SAY DREYFUSS IS A BOOB
even though he most certainly is

Posted by js paine at August 2, 2006 07:08 PM

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