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December 10, 2004how libs fudgei made the serious mistake of wafering out a piece from the ny times resident liberal economist heres his true colors ...... ==========================================
like most gliberal elite freaks
since at least the soup lines got too long
in 1931
he wants us
to as much as possible
remain employed
but he don't want us
to keep all our pay
we'll
just blow it on donuts
scratch cards and watered down brew
he's got plans
for
our pay
plans that
protect us from ourselves
from wall street
from communism from...
plans
to do us some real good .....
plans that
definitely
do not include
george the smaller's
SSI
"partial privatization" scheme
-----------------------------
welcome to the writing cabinet
of one
doctor paulius zzzzz krugmundt
of prinzstein I-versity
"Privatization
-----bush style -------
would begin
by diverting
payroll taxes
which pay for current
Social Security benefits
into
personal investment accounts.
-----lies foul tricksterish lies
the funds aren't
now
already a diversion
and you know this
you patch sleeved wank off
theres about
a trillion and a half
pay roll dollar
already flowed
out of
our pay stream to prove it
good honest work dollars
now inside
sucker central
fund 13
the one
full of low yield
aunt polly treasury notes --------
--------------
"The government,
already deep in deficit,
would have to borrow
to make up the shortfall"
---lie two by two
you cock slurping fuzz ball
uncle is already "borrowing"
that pay roll tax money
only its a dirty borrow now
a no choice
inside job borrow ...
at least the elephant boy george way
uncle would
have to
do theborrowing shit at arms length
right out there
on the open market
like he does
the rest of his borrowing
nice side light here:
according to the lady eve
this'll prolly raise
t-bill interest rates some
great let us geeps
in on that
right?
shit high rates?
why not uz for once ?
after all
other then uz payrolled fools
treasury shit's
for granny
and
super state
asian
market invaders
like the 4 aces
come on mamma
hows 'bout
a little extra taste
read on .... --------------------------
"This would sharply increase the government's debt"
--------lie
the total debt accumulation rate
only incresaes
above the present
set ups rate
if and when
uncle goes beyond
the present surplus
to fund the private accounts
and starts cuttin
into funds that otherwise
would
flow into theactual benefits pay out
ie cut into
the pay as you go portion
thats where the rubicon getz crossed
not before ------------
-------the quible here is over
who's owed
the change to private accounts
raises
uncle's external debt
not total debt
the diff
today the funds borrow
so uncle in essence only
owes himself
as things stand today
even though its our dollars
that is uz pay roll pay ins
dollars
doesn't matter
cause we
don't "own" our part
of the trust fund's T-notes
the way say
the asian 4 aces on theirs ------------------
" Never mind,
privatization advocates say:
in the long run,
people would make
so much on personal accounts
that the government
could save money
by cutting retirees' benefits"
--------------
kruggle iz usin
a self granted
speed pass here
lets slow him down
take it
frame by frame
here's the sequence:
imagine
two possible future amerikas
trust fund amerika
vs
private accounts amerika
in private accounts amerika
wage fools
are forced to invest
x % of their payroll
in corporate stocks
over the long haul
these stocks
yield a higher total return
then treasury notes
now lets flip to
trust fund amerika
there
the same identical flow out of payroll
goes into t-notes
over time
because of the yield differential
trust fund amerika
will have
a smaller
total pool of wealth
then
private accounts amerika
with its
superior growth stock investments
how much diff?
who cares
the diff whatever it iz
is a net gain
and the diff
goes to uz pay ins
one scenario:
in private accounts amerika
"somewhere down the road"
uncle cutz
back on benefits
paid out to retirees
from
the pay as you go
tax and transfer system
but this still leaves
these same retirees
better off
then they would be
if they'd travelled down time
as part of trust fund amerika -------------
--------------
lets turn this around:
for trust fund amerika
"somewhere down the road"
to deliver
the same total benefit payment
as private account amerika
can
uncle will have
to make up
the difference
between the pay out
from trust fund amerika's SSI
and the combined pay out
of private account amerika's
SSI AND PRIVATE ACCOUNTS
how?
by upping
pay as you go transfers
i.e.
by increasing
payroll taxes
at that point in time
or (heaven forbid)
by making additional
general borrowings -------------------
"if personal investment accounts
were invested in Treasury bonds,
this whole process
would accomplish precisely nothing
The interest workers
would receive
on their accounts
would exactly match
the interest the government
would have to pay
on its additional debt
To compensate
for the initial borrowing
the government would have
to make "
---------------absolutely correct
but so the fuck what
no one proposes this
except i like it
cause
at least this way
with the t-notes
in our private accounts
not uncle's
general trust funds
the shits
our property
now
our cookies
in uncle's jar
and our claim on it
is covered
only by uncle's promises
not our rights of property
all this
krug will show......------------
" the government
can cut future benefits
so workers
gain nothing at all"
--- nor lose anything
either
except the slight cost
of maintaining the digital records
of the individual accounts
(that is besides as pointed out above
the higher interest income
now earned on all t -notes
cause
full free market floats
will up uncles
interest rates)
notice what garble
he pulls us thru here
its a sick little
montee shuffle
showing us a plan no one proposes
and constructing it
so it wouldn't
be more
then a wash
fuck thiz
why has a rbright guyz
esorted to such a lame
fast finger hocus pocus deal?
who's conned here?
forget the shit pal
no way
to hide
the real content
of your " lie tortured intentions "
if need be
here's the deal
simpler put :
yes
assuming only treasury notes
in private accounts
makes the deal
not very useful
if you also assume
a dollar for dollar cut
in benefits
cause the end products
are the same
(that is again
potentially
but what if uncle goes a different way
as things now stand
what if
uncle fucks
with the pay outs
from the trust fund
he has ways
he wouldn't
have with issued t-notes)
fine butfuck...
there's more
thats the point
all things are not equal
the aggregate growth rate
of the private accounts will exceed
the trust funds
and
potentially
by a whole lot ...
oh another huge missing point here
all dollars taken
out of the payroll
tax
that flow
into these private accounts
can not be
subject
to tricky redistributions
from one pay- in -er
to another pay- in- er
no
low pop higherin
and
high pop lowerin
lets boost all poor guyz
welfare
type redistributions
i find it grand
that the glibberal fudge pots
most often
as krug does here
refuse
to mention
the present system
does a fair bit of redistribution
"well
uz liberal's
don't need to tell all
cause we always
do whats
"for yer own good"
why tell ya
what you would
only harm yerfellow man
by knowing
and selfishly
acting apon"
gotta love
the humane patron's
" smuck's oblige" here
nope
can't let the hoi
in on this
redistribution bizz
fuck no
well jack asses
watch out
the elephants may
spill the beans on ya
if you push em far enough
they may take down the whole system
then watch out clara bell
yer dear little
poor guys
will really
be shit out of dimes
fuck you
and all your elite
dirty dealing
all yer rigin the deck
all you do and been
doing
out of high sanctimony
since
at least
the 30's
fuck
all this
"dull green eye shade
do gooder peculation"
you 've
pulled off
behind
" your seemy
dancing vail
of popular ignorance "
lets hope
all this shit inside SSI
will get aired out
once and for all ---------------
----------------------------------
sorry
i'll
right back to krug...
"How, then, can privatizers claim
that they could secure
the future of Social Security
without raising taxes
or reducing the incomes
of future retirees? "
----------- see the switch here
he's just shown "a wash "
and now he's claiming
it isn't a wash
or shouldn't be a wash
or can't really be a wash
how ?
well by non sequitor
or maybe to be fair
by dragging in
out of no where
the entirely seperate issue
of
the post 2018
short falls
in pay as you go
what sloppy panicky lazy
bull shit ---------
" By assuming that workers
would invest most
of their accounts in stocks
that these investments
would make a lot of money"
-----watch this rug pull------
"and that, in effect,
the government,
not the workers,
would reap most of those gains,
because as personal accounts grew,
the government could cut benefits"
-------need i comment
on this slippery glide by ---------
" in essence, such schemes
involve having the government
borrow heavily
and put the money
in the stock market
and then
have the government
confiscate
the benefit of
these workers' gains
in their personal accounts
by cutting those same workers'
tax and transfer benefits
dollar for dollar "
------
first off
i tampered with krug here
to make his point
cause he cut his own dick twice sword dancing
and he deserves better ..
but
"borrow heavy"
vut
again vid dah borrowing krug
shit we see through dis krug
yer fucking scare krieg don't woik
only
if and when
uncle cuts
into
the requirements
of pay
as you go
to fill the private accounts
will he be borrowing more
under the private accounts system
then under the present system
i haven't seen a plan yet that even gets that far so whos to say
bush won't
say okay we take only the surplus
with a sub voce
"for now heh heh heh heh.... "---------
----- now as to krugs
gains off set
by cutting benefits
sure he's right
but this leaves room
maybe plenty of room
for a geeper gain anyway
christ
thats simple addition subtraction
krug
here you
are pretending
7+3-2 = 6 or at best 7
shame on you noughty boy
maybe you are a rogue after all
cause
thats exactly
the kind of shit you accuse bush of ------------------
"Once you realize
that privatization
really means government borrowing
to speculate on stocks,
it doesn't sound too responsible,
does it? "
--------what none sense
who better to take risks..
the government
with its taxing power
and its credit line
can ride out any flux
borrow to smooth payment flows
etc etc etc
not here but else where
you even hear doubts
about the real
long run return
being higher on stocks
(in fact best estimates
have it
something like
publicly traded
corporate stocks 6 %
real annualcompounded yield
vs
uncle's bonds 3.5% )
and of course
this is so
the return
on uncle's bonds
are rock bottom rates
they define safety
nothing is so low
over the long haul
every other
legitimate security category
will out perform t notes
because if nothing else
-as krug points out-
they each carry the burden
of greater risk
but here's where krug lies
and i mean lies
like a hong kong
jade dealer
uncle
far from being
a candidate for risk avoider
is the best of all
possible legitimate risk takers
he's the ultimate
long haul deep pocket
best
credit guy
uncle buying risk
and spreading it out
over all of us
thats the best game in town
by this indirection
by going thru uncle
we can socialization
the shitwe can't handle as civilians
interestingly
if a slight off set
by pumping all these
"new dollars" into stocks
the elephants
would prolly
suceed
in reducing the return
on corporate stocks
while
at the same time
the implied out flow
of funds
from uz suckers'
sequestered treasuries
wil be raising rates
on t- bills
i.e.
this plan should
make "the spread"
less
--------------
"
the details make
it considerably worse.
First, financial markets would,
correctly,
treat the reality
of huge deficits today
as a much more important indicator
of the government's fiscal health
than the mere promise
that government could save money
by cutting benefits
in the distant future."
------ ginkers
read whats comin up
carefully its grand stuff-----------
"After all,
a government bond
is a legally binding
promise to pay
while a benefits formula
that supposedly cuts costs
40 years
from now
is nothing more
than a suggestion
to future Congresses."
------------ really nice krug
better then my version
not even a "promise"
its a mere
"a suggestion"
beautiful
but you dingo
this is ammo for the other side
not yours
you wiggle woggle pipe stem
start
tell the hoi
their trust fund
is less then a promise
something that don't
even need to be broken
to be fucked
tell em
that their pay ins
really aren't
theirs
some day
unless congress feels in the mood
and they'll want
to tear up the whole system
fuck take back
the surplus
fuck abolish the whole deal
fuck the old shits yer on yer own
i made it i'll spend
and now
while its still worth something
want yours back to
old timer
try gettin from the dead ass holes
you supported
cause from now on
mine ain't yours
yup far from forced savings plans
we'll have
a spend it now plan
spend it
before its stolen
by politicians
down the road
shit
with chatter
like that
you're not
workin
to can
the private accounts scheme
you're workin
to can just
what
you're trying to defend ----------
---to be fair
okay so your agitated
i know theres a fast one
under way here
wall street's
ever so none suchery
is out to pick
a few hundred million pockets
okay
but fuck
kruggy
keep yer wagon
on the trail here
you are deain out
the elephants
own cards
this property vs promise shit
is exactly
what george's stooges
kall home base
if you mean what you say
and
i'm sure as aconflicted brainy
decent liberal twit
you both do and don't
then face the dark side here
the elephants
are right
about the SSI
trust funds
they
contain
the loot
taken with
brakeable
promises
and that don't work
so well
in the mind of
a lot of regular folks
as
temporarily
tied up funds
with their name on em
that are
investible
for a higher return
okay
so you know
how to use
the bush big lie
when it works for ya
but this one
works
even better
against ya dopey --------------
------- and you go on...-------------
" Social Security rules aren't immutable:
in the past, Congress has changed things
like the retirement age
and the tax treatment
of benefits.
If a privatization plan passed
in 2005 called for steep benefit
cuts in 2045,
what are the odds
that those cuts would really happen?"
------- wow here the whole thing flowers
into the feed me plant from
little shop of horrors .....
i can hear the stampede
"gib me back
my fuckin pay ins"
" bust open
the trust funds
uncle
return our dough
we wanta
go back to
pay as ya go "
really krug don't fight the feeling here
this can get only worse
if ya fight em
hey they're smart
they'll
hit ya where you pray
what are you gonna say
if they counter with...
calvinism
what if behind the hand
the wally boyz nuncios
say to ya
"krug come on
its a sugar shack
way to up
the forced savings rate "-------
----------------------------
" If Mr. Bush were to say
in plain English
that his plan
to solve our fiscal problems
is to borrow trillions
put the money into stocks
and hope for the best
if he were to announce
that
any such system
of personal accounts,
would mainly be
an indirect way
for the government
to speculate
in the stock market
and
would lead to
huge brokerage fees
then
everyone would denounce
the plan
as the height
of irresponsibility
---------really ?
why ?
cause you just said so ?
this is hysterical
-----okay so now the street
with its fees
plus uncles pay out cut
off sets
takes
away any poor slubs
up side
good
then the geeps
will buy
your fucking aunt polly wog
treasury bonds
next time won't they
and be no worse off
in the after life
then they are now
financially
except
for the cost
of a good lesson
in wall street manners
something
maybe worth ten times more
then the lost dough
cause they got
the streets number -----------
-------at any rate
why wish for
such bad spin
you'll never get ?
krug
you know
instead
they'll say
"iwe're not
gonna let
uncle use
your hard earned
payroll
to create a tax surplus
nopenot any more
we got a better way
from now on
if uncle can't balance
his budget
he'l l
just have to
borrow the short fall
else where
cause iwe're givin'
you all back
your own money
to invest in
high yield stocks
givin it back
for your own
damn fine benefit
not let uncle
soak ya
like a damn fool
to fill the hole
in his goo goo built deficit "
how you gonna answer that
in street english boy ? ---------------
"The fact that this plan
has an elaborate disguise,
one that would add considerably
to its costs, makes it worse."
-------interesting point
speaking of elaborate and costly disguises
thats
a real nice way
of describing
capitalism's
very own core scam
the private profit
exploitation system
itself is just that sort
of false mustacheoed
alias blarney regan
rip off transfer system ---------
======================================
-----final jimbaree
yoodle
" folks its really
a win win
we offer ya here
an
increase
in voluntary
by your choice only
forced
social savings
not only
does this mother
help your own future
it
helps your country too
cause we will build robots
with yer money
here gang look
the futures wearing leisure suits
lord jesus
right when
we need her most
lets all
bind ourselves
to freedom's
full throttle future
make
uncle
cough
back up
some of our
ever belowering
pay
so we can
build ourselves
a one way swag
a
fully
salvation ready
force
fed future
freedom portfolio
so highly
personal
yer on a first name only
basis
so
highly individualized
so custom cut
so
liberty launched
so
"just for you"
you'll
not know where your
dick ends
and your investments begin
just work till. yer xyz
and
then bango
she's all yours
to do with
as you please
in perfect freedom
and perfect privacy
she'll
be yer own
very private
personal individual
freely held
paper asset property
with all the canonic
florishments
all the wool dyed
values
of havin and holdin
all
we deem
to be self evident
rock of ages
tit tested
rights and privileges
yes
thats the plain unvarnished facts
you got in one
wall street
hand packed bindle
all the fancy
life's fond end game
surprise fixins
we call america's
way to terminal happiness
yes
full figured
ownershippppppp
big time
wall street
issued
gilt edged
balloon payment
securitized
funga-billy
spawn doolickicated
spendable glee
yes indeed
pal 'o mine
with this here
water tight plan
you get
the property
the whole property
and nothin but
the property
yours only
in toto
yours for ever and a day
past the casket
and thru the moonbeams
--------------------------
not to be too negative here
lets end on
as sweet a chord as possible:
i suggest
we fix the pay as you go
y raising the taxable base
to cover all comp
for labor services
ie ceo's total comp too
yes go
all the way
exercised options
bonuses
defered pay etc etc etc
my guess
right now
theres
a couple trill
more out there
to pull into
the tax and transfer system
get at all of it
then cut the flat rate
to a pay as you go level
as for the pay in to pay out ratio
problem
which is headed from 3.5 to 1
all the way down to 2 to 1
well show
the folks the path
and
leave it up to them
to decide whats best
if they want to increase productivity
the only real way
you can
iz by inventin better machines
and
building more of em
to pay for it all
set up a forced savings fed
social
investment plan
out of all forms of income
of course
not just wages
and while we're at it
what if uncle
did just
what krug calls
a no no
what if he
did the thing striaght up
took the forced social savings
and invested them all
in risky production
enhancing operations
like he did to fight
world war two
invest
not in paper stocks
but good old department one
and directly
not thru
the goose noose
candy land stup
not thru
that fucking wall street
paper mill
that
purports to be
an owner share system
lets build up
the production base of
amerika the mighty
straight off
step one
lets start
with the whole
pay roll tax surplus flow
whats that a 100 - 200 bills per year?
oh and lets
turn
the 1.5 trillionin the funds
back to their rightful owners
as personal accounts
holding zero coupon
dated bonds
and lets sieze
the banks
and fry all university presidents
and
dance naked with hand guns
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Posted by herb jr. jr. at December 10, 2004 12:45 PM
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