House of Paine

norm and me

here's your pink
trying to save mini me
from  any part
of the judas role 

trying to squeeze a consent
    out of the great norm 

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"I think this theory is a little too Machiavellian, but maybe I'm just naive."

so writes norman finklestein to your pink



why ???

read below 

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last to first 


pink writes 

>you are right of course as usual
>
>expansion is the logic of all settler mind sets
>
>take more at the margins
>manifest destiny  and all that
>
>
>rampages on the fringes
>hell
>they go  back to  spain's philip the second
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>my point   really a very humble one
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>   is made by you i think
>
>wouldn't you agree
>a restless pushy settler faction
>is not a bad thing from the point of view of uncle's empire
>
>as you point out
>
>keeping  a section of the israeli people in a pugnacious mood
>                      aids uncle's regional objectives
>
>a peaciful settling down with her neighbors
>a de militarization  ..... bad for empire
>
>compare and contrast these other  flesh and blood tools of empire
>
>the leb christians..... the iraqi kurds
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>its a great game if you have the soul of sledge hammer
>
>i trust you see i'm only trying to make this apparent blank check
>   pro israel policy 100% good for  our corporate global empire
>
>even the most obvious blow back
>
>muslim terror and endless inter communal slaughter
>pays dividends
>
>latest square dance
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>the iraqi sunnis and shia going  at each other
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>uncle's   regional mission
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>    "  chaos is golden "
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>risky ????
>
>sure
>
>could  it get out of hand
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>hey its like setting back fires
>of course
>the damn thing has  hazards
>
>
>but  that comes with the territory
>
>and besides
>thats the sport of it all
>errrrrr.....
>if you're sitting on the corner of  wall street and  penn ave
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>
>
>>From: "Norman Finkelstein" 
>>>>
>>
>>Don't agree. THe settlers are an Israeli initiative, a repitition, 
>>unsuccessful as it turns out, of how Israel was originally created.
>>
>>
>>
>>from pink 
>>
>>
>> >i think the settler movement itself is  if not a direct creature 
>>of
>> >us regional politics
>> >at least an indirect one
>> >
>> >the test :
>> >
>> >i claim the israelis themselves left to their own devices even 
>>plus
>> >world zionist support
>> >would have seen this understanable but " mad" vision of a greater
>> >israel for what it is
>> >
>> >the clique of those directly benefiting would have been isolated 
>>by
>> >now
>> >if uncle sam hadn't winked blinked tweeked etc
>> >as long as the funds flow in
>> >this  " dream" can continue and  the irritant to the region
>> >like an IUD prevents the  embryo of inter communal peace
>> >from attaching
>>itself
>> >
>> >qui bono ????
>> >
>> >>From: "Norman Finkelstein" 
>> >>>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I don't quite get your point.  Perhaps you can restate it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From: pink Tue, 02 May 2006 14:16:26 GMT


>> >> >very strong piece
>> >> >
>> >> >only one point and i think its a result of you being in a
>> >> >balancing mood
>> >> >
>> >> >the settlers also serve uncle's task
>> >> >which
>>is to maintain a non peaceable fronteer
>> >> >
>> >> >like scotch irisk settlers  on uncle's fronteer
>> >> >in this mini me bizzaro world  of israel
>> >> >settlers are the shock troops of expansion
>> >> >thats the classical mode
>> >> >
>> >> >however their efforts are futile of course
>> >> >but they serve as the constant irratent that repells
>> >> >a  popular resolution
>> >> >
>> >> >sorry if i blow too hard here
>> >> >my point
>> >> >but for uncle's "evil"
>> >> >hand
>> >> >the settler movement would have been
>> >>quashed
>> >> >years ago in the name of  peace
>> >> >by forces internal to israeli politics
>> >> >
>> >> >but  as far as uncle see
>>it
>> >> >the settler minority is a gift from heaven for conflict
>> >>sustaining
>> >> >and popular jewish support for an irrational"zionist " policy
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >good  god
>> >> >what  hideous bloody  irony all this  has become
>> >> >and its dreadful parallels
>> >> >to past empires and past jewish communities
>> >> >
>> >>