in this acheson brief :
tuck the fuck
lances
a massively flatulent
old imperial bag pipe
===========================================
"I think that this could still fail."
Those words -
uttered by a senior American officer
in Baghdad last week
probably gave opponents
of the war in Iraq
particularly those
clamoring for a hasty exit
a bit of a kick
They should be careful
what they wish for
For history strongly suggests
that a hasty American withdrawal
from Iraq would be a disaster
------------- the curtain rises on
our vicious quag by the tigris -------------
"If we let go of the insurgency,"
said another
of the officers quoted
anonymously last week,
"then this country could fail
and go back into civil war and chaos."
--------------
"this country fail "?
i know we now speak
of failed states
as we speak
of failed corporations...
but failed countries?
"go back" ..."back into civil war and chaos"?
of what doth this brass hat speak?
nice example of
a quote worse then its own intent --------------
"As many of the war's opponents
seem to have forgotten
civil war and chaos
tend to break out
when American military interventions
have been aborted"
---------- forgotten?
non sense this sub -urban myth
has never seen the end of one telling
before its being told again ------------
" No one should wish
for an overhasty American withdrawal
from Iraq"
----------- why? -------------
"It would be the prelude
to a bloodbath
of ethnic cleansing
and sectarian violence"
------ really ? ----------
"and lead to cross border
spill overs
and outside interventions"
------------ double really ? -----------
"Think not only of
Vietnam and Cambodia
--------- civil war blood baths
in post 73 nam ????? ?
shit after uncle pulled out
things simmered down to a wimper
cambo ?
bloody you bet
but
shit uncle
created pol pot
just like bin laden
he was the ideal interveners bogie
still is
shit hanoi
proved that
compare hanoi into cambo
with saddam into kuwait
very different
international reception eh? --------
" but also of Lebanon in 1983
and Haiti in 1996"
--------- what ?
fuck if
all uncle's armored knights
wanted was to get out of iraq
tomorrow
guarantee em
a second post '83 lebanon....
a pulverized derelict of a nation
washington would seize
that deal and move en masse
to kurdistan
in a new york second -----------
------------- so much for your few specific examples ...
got any more you pentagon tart---------
" To talk glibly
of "finding a way out of Iraq,"
as if it were just a matter
of hailing a cab
and heading for the Baghdad airport
is to underestimate
the danger
of a bloody internecine conflict
among Kurds, Sunni Arabs and Shiites
------------- please
there is a un after all .....
and if the h c lodge mind set prevails ?
well
first off we could
as i mentioned
pull back into kurdistan
and vow to intervene
if the bagdad area kurds are threatened
with " ethnic cleansing"
or if some neighbor trys
"spilling " into the joint....
but to be front and center here
as to the main event
the inevitable
sectarian show down
between shia and sunnis
obviously
better now
then after
we've armed and trained
a few hunderd thousand shiites -------------
" Instead of throwing up our hands
in an irresponsible fit
of despair"
--------- no ass hole
in a fit
of manic atonement --------
" we need to learn
not just from past disasters
but also from historical victories
over insurgencies"
--------aaah please
don't pretend we can win this fucker ------------
" of all the attempts
in the past century
by irregular indigenous forces
to expel regular foreign forces
around a third have failed"
------- we got one in three odds
eh?
come on
you old hagus butt
thats crap
show me the tabulation list ....
and the butchers bill too
besides whats a win by the bigs
the creation of a decent interval?
at what price
is 20 more years of foreign domination
a good deal ?---------
--- ------but regardless
now we come to the tunes of past glory -----------
In 1917
British forces
invaded Mesopotamia
got to Baghdad
overthrew its Ottoman rulers
and sought -
in the words of the general
who led them, Sir Stanley Maude -
to be its people's "liberators." "
----------- raj putz uber the sand taffy ----------------
"The British presence in Iraq
was legitimized by international law
(it was designated a League of Nations mandate)
and by a modicum of democracy
(a referendum was held
among local sheiks
to confirm the creation
of a British-style constitutional monarchy)
- --------- "legit democracy"
as in "la modicum est 'nough fer darks "
christ this is
the sort of fishy moral time lining
the tel aviv boys crank out -------------
" Despite all this"
---------or rather because of all this -----------
"in 1920
there was a full-scale insurgency
against the continuing
British military presence"
.
---------lets skip
some blue stale fart
premature senility
here
on
then ..now
and
the wrong side of asymetery" ---------
---------- well except for these two frags --------
" the striking thing
about the events of 1920
is how very like today ....."
-------------- very like
mother of jesus
he wishes to draw out the differences
and staggers here against his own wind .....
then again
the clowns bulb is out
and
all faces do tend to look the same color
in a darkened room ------------------
" Even if the insurgents lose
10 men for every 1 they kill,
they are still winning
not least because
the American side
takes its losses so much harder...."
------------------ believe me he goes no where with this
but i will...
10 to 1 is a loser
then
up the ratio to 100 to 1
that did the trick
in most red skin dust ups
which you'll see is more like
the body count scoring
aimed at by the roaring 20's brit occ
100 to 1 white to wog bodies that is ----------- --------------
------------- the question is posed -----------------
" How, then, did the British crush
the insurgency of 1920? "
--------------- to anticipate
how else
unchained savagery .....
torture
and
jolly blood letting
pure theatre of terror stuff
my favorite
the old stand by
random
village extermination patrols -----------
okay
for u h g wells fans
there was
that new kicker
poison air dropped from planes
pre mussolini -----------
"Three lessons stand out"
"The first is that
unlike the American enterprise
in Iraq today
they had enough men"
------------- men ?
try colonial wogs ...--------------.
" back then
the ratio of Iraqis
to foreign forces
was, at most,
23 to 1.
Today it is around
174 to 1"
" To arrive at a ratio
of 23 to 1 today,
about one million American troops
would be needed"
-------------- notice
school girl math
amounts to high analytics
for our
worthy
cheese brained lowlander here
more to the point .... ----------
"The British were able to be ruthless....
they used air raids "
------------ now yer talkin...
con gas amigo con gas -----------
"......and
punitive expeditions
------------ i see alexander korda here ------------------
to villages that supported
the insurgents"
--------------conducted by hell bent knife happy
colonial wogs
straight out of the moral abyss
threshold for insurgent support label ?
village contains
attractive women
as well as children and old men ------
-----------------
yup wog wet work
where as uncle's
usin his own kids
and so he's
gotta put up the facade
that
" vee are not zah SS
zare for
VEE fight a cleeeen vor
and yet.... ---------
and yet .... ----------
" and yet
our efforts to minimize
terror humiliation and torture
have not yielded
any significant benefits
compared with what
the few over steps have cost
the country's reputation"
--------------- yes indeed
the good old colonial days
t'was easier
to be a brute
back in 1920 ....
as well it might be
after a good four centuries
of feeding lower level europe
on the value
of a christian wash and brush up
for any and all benighted areas
yes indeed
even the nastiest colonial baloney
by the brits provoked no signifigant
" civilized world" knee jerk re-action -----------
"The Americans' other problem
has to do with timing
and expectations".
it may well take around 10 years
to establish order in Iraq,
30 more to establish
the rule of law,
and quite possibly
another 30 to create
a stable democracy.
-------------thats 70 all together
in brit iraq
with all the time line
in the world
the 1917 invasion and topple
would have reached
zero hour
just in time to shake gorby's dick --------
"But the Bush administration
has just three and a half years left
Is it credible
that American troops
will still be in Iraq
for even another
four years after that? "
--------- no ----------
"The insurgents don't think so
They know that American democracy
puts time on their side
Once again
the contrast with the British experience
is instructive"
------- what contrast ?
are u claimin
the brit-raj had no democracy
back home
to contend why?
in 1920 ?
better tell mister L -george ...
a white votin majority
then or now
could and still can
live quite comfortibly
with a protracted wog war
long as its ...a wog war
fought mostly between
good uncle suckin wogs and bad uncle threatenin wogs
and with american blood rarely spilt --------------------
"Although Iraq was formally granted
its independence in 1932
there was still some form
of British presence
in the country until the late 1950's"
----------- right
and
when the fuckin
brit raj
decided
it was closing time
of course
their lu lu pupit king
was made into
a mere fly clouded
head on a pole
faster then god freed daniel ------------
" So, if we acknowledge
that the United States
simply does not have
the luxury of time
that the British enjoyed
and cannot be similarly ruthless
can it
at least increase
the manpower at its disposal in Iraq? "
------------- ah the point of all this arrives at last ---------
"The official answer from Washington
is that Iraqi security forces
will soon be ready to play
an effective role in policing"
-----------attend to what follows --------------
" Few who have seen those forces
on the ground
find this strategy realistic"
------ heres where we need an up date
why can't we build a wog force ?
why won't wogs today work for us
like wogs yesterday
worked for the brits
why can't
the shia be empowered to lord it over the sunni
as our honored regional wog surrogates ?
little brown
isrealis
and better yet
cause they are
without a domestic lobby ------------------
---------- well certainly not because ...... --------
" Some fear that the training
Iraqi soldiers are receiving
may prove useful
only when they fight
one another in an Iraqi civil war"
---------
the kilt's off here
you fuck face
the logic
of this point:
anyone
obviously driven
by humane instincts
would lead us towards a swift yankee exit
before by our arms and training
we make the inevitable post bug out
aftermath even bloodier -------
-----so since a bug out now
is not your intent
why not say
why we need to stay flat out
why not say
uncle needs to stay
cause he wants to stay ....
and intercomunal peace
between the big three
would be a disaster
for uncles armed presence
this is clearer
every time
the other bull line
the "we're making freedom bloom
in mesopotamia "
line
explodes into
thousand flying body parts
yes em
their bloody cross hatreds
are our only robust pretext
for squatters rights
and the worse the better
but back to this zinkles dance .... --------------.
" What, then,
of America's own resources?"
---------- notice the pavlov bit here ---------------
" Almost no one
(least of all the Pentagon)
wants to go back to the draft"
-------------
not that this draft scare
pig rinse actually
matters
at least
for todays topic
ie
why we don't scram from iraq
but how hollow "no draft " sounds...
whilst the warlords
are said to be
wringing their hands
about too few boots
i am meant to hear
a latter day chamberlain saying
while he waves
a paper over head
"there will be no draft in our time"
hear it
and fear
the false fright of an open draft --------------
" could today's
all-volunteer force
somehow be expanded
to double (at least)
the troops available? "
"That too seems unlikely."
---------- un-likely
and totally un -relevant
get the drift here compadres
this iraq thing
is a fort apache gig
so obviously
if the red skins
are quelled
or simply kool off too much or too fast
we lose our occupation force
reason d'etre
but i wonder too much and wonder to long .....--------------
" How did the British address
the manpower problem in 1920? "
------- here it comes at last --------------
"By bringing in soldiers
from India
who accounted for more than 87 percent
of troops in the counter-insurgency campaign"
--------------viola mon point sur les wogs magnifique --------------
" the United Kingdom
had the Indian Army;"
--------- optimal game:
good wogs killin bad wogs killin good wogs.... -----------------
---------------- there can be
no substitute for the real thing
so .... --------------
"send Condoleezza Rice to New Delhi?"
--------------- my lord the hind-jew axis may yet emerge -----------
" radically expand
the accelerated citizenship program
for immigrants who join the army"
---------------- shades of rome ....
key to the program
all probationary citizen-soldiers
must be recruited
from in theatre wogs
imagine
how we'd
up the masculine
breeding stock
down the road
by bringing home
say
350 k worth of 6 foot kurds? --------------------
" lower the (historically high)
educational requirements
demanded by military recruiters"
-----------------
not so smart an idea.....
as my pal the grackle has written
only so many folks anywhere
are dumb enough to vol for a pair of boots
in a time
of shootin
wars
and whats more
most real native amerikan
pea brains
are already holding down
high payin offices
in gubmint or on wall steret ------------------
---------- i guess i'll let this soiled tartan
end on his own fumes ----------
"remember its
174 to 1 over there right now
and
That is not only the ratio
of Iraqis to American troops.
It is starting to look
alarmingly like
the odds against American success"
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