watch out han guyz the IMF iz laffin at ya....... here u are caught and worried just where mostthird rate countries would die to be my advice: under the circumstances whatever you do try not to do what you're urged and expected to do let wall street know you ain't no okee dokee third rate first world flunkee outfit ================================== hONG KONG, Oct. 28 " China's central bank raised official borrowing costs for the first time in nine years Thursday night in a step aimed at slowing breakneck economic growth and inflation " ---- really? then why so small a move? tokenism or symbolism mayhaps? an attempt to curb the critters by a harmless warning shot ----- "but one that could risk social unrest if heavily indebted state companies respond by laying off more workers" ---- no chance with thiz tiny bump by the way this article's author proves later to know this full well ----- ----------------------------------------------- "Beijing also removed the ceiling on what banks could charge for loans" ----- now we're talkin sounds to me like the party wants to retain control of the financial commanding heights-------- "a measure that could make more loans available to risky private enterprises " ------no not neceassarily more loans just a larger share of whatever loans there are will now be public statey type loans and why not ------- "and ultimately enhance China's long-term growth prospects and give its economy much greater stability" ------- this is a news article by the way isn't this trumpeteering silly not to mention the too heavy handed utterly press relations type bogus analysis stuff like this should be blacked out for every ones good... please ass hole first try to understand the real story and then flat out tell it ' the informal grossly profir stuffed mainland reloan market is headed for a public squeeze job if not an out right close down ' ----- ----------------------------------------- "The two moves shift China further toward a Western-style financial system in which markets determine the allocation of credit not government officials " ------- pure sky cream no credit system anywhere actually "rations " by interest rate why the toot toot ? cause weak handed third rate systems allow imf and wall stret bankers to over run them a syustem that controls all investment is to strong for those trying to make the globe everywhere safe for first world corporate transnational investments-------------- anywhere and everywhere setting rates is secondary to aggregate loaned out fund targets after credit parameters are set credit expansion is controled in an " level field " financial market by lifting or lowering these credit "requirements" to keep the over all loan expansion path on macro target this has little to do with immediate macro management the han central bank is here giving notice to one and all that it is planning to extend its " direct" control to " further out" formerly secondary credit markets ------ "The interest rate increase is widely expected by economists to be the first in a series of increases that could lift rates by as much as two percentage points in the coming year " --big deal----------- " this could seriously curtail economic growth" ------ not so 2 % changes stand alone are nearly meaningless in a system running 5-10 % inflation rates if lets say you decide to uncoil the present over heated disfunctional land price spiral that will require direct administrative action a stern series of " no no no no no's " plus calling some outstanding real estate bridge loans do a few marginal fuckers in (like our own banking system pulled when the word went out to 'kill' the real estate boom in america's north east as a diversion during the south west S&L BLOW back of '87-'89 ) these moves reported here are part of a capture and control package its first target? whack out the obscene and destablizing insider state borrowing- reloan profiteering thats fueling this sepeculative jamboree let the public banks grab more of this spread -------- ----------------------------------------- " Indebted property developers and laid-off workers are likely to be angry " ----- as i just pointed out the developers of spec residential towers are probably just exactly who the bureaucrats have in their sights here if for no other reason just to keep em 'honest" at least in part for their own long run "good" collective irrationality can only be drowned out by concerted public action------------- ---------- as to all thiz angry jobless shit even a negative "real" rate of 10-13 % wouldn't be enough financial moxie to keep things cookin good enough nope nothing will calm the jobless waters for that task much " higher " administrative methods are mandatory better bring back deng...---------- -------- partial sum up here : the rationing of credit on the mainland has been done without changing the nominal rate for years the real problem today is the burgeoing private lending activity all this stuff going on outside the system happens in large part because bank rates are too low on thats on both ends loaning and depositing ( dposit returns are rediculously too low) this more then "encourages" funds diversion into informal relending and at a profit that is both "too large" and "too easy" ------------------------------------- ---- here's some more biz journalism at its usual ignorant putty like best---- "After concluding last spring that the economy was expanding at an unsustainable pace and fueling inflation, Chinese leaders initially chose mostly administrative methods to try to limit excessive growth, like the denial of approvals for construction projects." ------------ yes but...--------------- "But these methods have failed to rein in rising prices" " Consumer goods, on average, cost 5.2 percent more last month than a year earlier despite price controls on many products " "Price increases are running at nearly 10% for goods traded between companies which are subject to fewer price controls." ----commodity price inflation out of control? i doubt it -------------- -------------------------------------------- " The Peoples Bank also ended years of regulations tightly limiting the maximum interest rates that banks could charge on loans." ----------- here is how you get out there into that further up stream loan market ---------- " The limits, which the Peoples Bank started to loosen last December, had discouraged the country's banks, almost all state-owned, from taking the risk of lending to small and medium-size private companies." ----leaving it to relending arbitageurs and private bankers nice ducks in a barrel biz prolly conducted at least in part by the stateys themselves off the records so if yer gettin cut in why move on thiz now ? good question prolly cause the indecent spread is so large the reloan game has accelerated out of all control and is feeding on itself so blatantly so grossly and irrationally that all these fucking informals have simply got to get the yank down ------------- "The Peoples Bank said in a statement that its moves were partly aimed at keeping money in the banking system" ----------- ah now shoe two drops why deposit your cash in a state bank when you can earn so much more lending it out directly ------------------ "Affluent urban Chinese families in particular are turning away from depositing money in banks at the extremely low interest rates offered, choosing instead to lend money directly at double-digit interest rates. ---see how facts make sense------ " Steeply rising prices and low, government-mandated interest rates have prompted companies across China to borrow heavily over the last two years," ---- after misses the linkage between state enterprises as primary borrowers and primary lenders and then becoming patsy players in the "private relenders " game at least the pols of funds outside the banking system are here noticed ----------- "The borrowers have erected forests of apartment buildings expecting that prices will go up fast enough to repay all the loans" ---- if the interest rates are low and fixed anticipating heavy inflation ahead in land values borrowers like any rational profiteers take as much credit as they can get their hands on because the real rate is deep in minus territory ------------ "Many of the most fashionable boulevards in China's urban centers are lined with new luxury apartment buildings with long rows of empty windows " "few buyers can afford them. Yet new apartment buildings continue to be built " ----that'll be your inevitable irrational self building frenzy just before el bursto hits bubble time big time el bursto ------------ "Economic data released last Friday showed that the tempo of economic growth in China barely slowed in the third quarter despite the credit squeeze of the spring and in what may be an even more disturbing development the Chinese economy seems to be re-accelerating " --------- now how about exchange rates ?----------- "By raising the interest rate now but leaving the exchange rate unchanged, Beijing runs the risk that speculators will pour even more money into China - possibly stoking inflation further - in the hope that Beijing will eventually have to allow the currency to appreciate." ---------- here is a fairly clear picture of hot money at work only antidote state credit controls just what the imf wants china to drop so like the rest of the third rate world she will be at the mercy of the specs ------------- "If China were to follow the I.M.F.'s recommendation, by letting the yuan trade in a wider range against the dollar then the short-term effect would probably be a dramatic appreciation of the yuan. " --- right seems the han boyz want to stay in the saddle here even as the ride gets wilder and wilder ----------- ----- obviously under the conditions on the ground higher official rates make good sense if credit markets are running away from the public sector merely to feed private specs trading in land and currency you want the money manderin's to crush in a vice like their so many useless fucking dung beetles likewise if cash instead of being deposited is getting lent out directly by private lenders this disintermediation must be cramped if not killed at least make the "cost in opportunity higher by setting up not only decent deposit rates but also offer inflation adjusted accounts so what if now and again you run a negative flow so what if some of your loans run out there below full cost your the state not a private banker theres always more for you and you alone there's always more cash if you need it cause you're the guyz that print it soak up the outstending cash cash make it all flow thru you do it and do it at all costs get itall under the bright lights the system is yours to control so control it keep the stuff where you can track it easily -------------------------------- next time don't confuse currency and land bubble busting with the horrible mistake of tightening industrial and infrastructutre construction let that fly baby fly let the system growth thru imbalances when theres labor slack there is no real cost the worlds biggest and best work force is there to be tapped full employment is miles away shit you got 200 milion grossly under employed in the country side --------- ---- by the way i'm sure this is futile advice the central bank of china may not be run from wall street (thank god) but its still "run" not for the welfare of the broad toiling masses but for the very profiteering specs i'm suggesting the bank try to croak 24/7 yes Dotty dear vampires run the han blood bank too------------Posted by pinky at October 30, 2004 10:20 AM
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