heres stig and pinky measuring the weight of uncles thumb on the trade and investment scales ========================= In the year since the breakdown of the trade talks in Cancun, sentiment has increasingly grown in the developing world that no agreement is better than a bad agreement. < yes indeed the wallys press cause they want more which means worse> But what would a good agreement look like? < who the fuck cares if we can't get a good agreement short of shooting half of wall street's biggery and jailing the rest but just fer fun.....> the current round of trade negotiations, does not deserve even to be called a Development Round.Posted by pinky at September 10, 2004 10:58 AMWell before the riots that marked the World Trade Organization talks in Seattle in 1999, I called for a true "development round" of trade talks to redress the inequities of previous rounds. The advanced countries, with their dominant corporate and financial interests, had set the agenda for those negotiations. <"dominant coprorate and financial interests" there stig you said it now why won't you take the next step don't they set all state agendas ? thats what dominant means and besides what would change their minds a win win with even bewtter results for them then this win lose they pulled of?>. Whether or not developing countries benefited was of little concern. < right stig now where does that lead one you got an idea how to make em concerned?> Indeed, in the last round of trade negotiations, the Uruguay Round, the world's poorest region, sub-Saharan Africa, was actually made worse off. < hear that ? stig sez a whole region was made worse off by trade and capital flow not might have been was was was made worse off makes sense even if its not zero sum the more you lose the more i make unless stig can make the pot grow that much faster and and and prove it can only grow that much faster if thirdees get a take too not just a give but... so far "liberalization" as programed by the wally world"interests" the ones with no interest in third rater's interests has been a fuck u for africa black> if the agenda of the current round is reoriented towards development, <" is ' here being stiglitese for won't but in theory could> and if assistance is provided to manage implementation and adjustment costs developing countries can gain much. < wooow could ya jump from real screw to dream cream any faster by the way " can" here is just another stiglitese word for won't but could and the "much" here means who the fuck dares guess what price we pay for imperial greed and folly > more people live from agriculture in the developing world than from manufacturing, < way way more and barely get by in the best of times > so agricultural liberalization must be high on the agenda. But genuinely beneficial agricultural reform would need to go further than merely transforming export subsidies into other types of subsidies, < the usual scam pulled in the wall street three card montee why not descramble this and say so stig say its not working for the thirders cause its not supposed to work for the thirders> because many supposedly non-distorting subsidies lead to more output, which hurts producers in developing countries by lowering prices. < ie the "go along" bribes to first world agri biz hardly help third raters when they don't actually prop global pirces by curbing output but merely compensate price fall lowered first world agri biz revenues with subsidy payments but then how could they and whats more given who runs the carnival why should they > Trade reforms must be sensitive to the effects on developing countries, many of which are net importers of subsidized agricultural commodities. < ie wall street dumps subsidized food and feed and fiber on third rate markets killing the third raters domestic price structure clobbering the revenue value of local farms and plots and these ain't big farmers > take subsidies, like cotton subsidies in the United States, these subsidies are rightly emblematic of America's bad faith. Eliminating this subsidy would help 10 million poor cotton farmers in sub-Saharan Africa. American taxpayers would also benefit. The only losers would be the 25,000 rich farmers who currently divvy up $3-4 billion in government handouts each year. < amen stig this is the dark heart of the matter> Developing countries also need access for the unskilled labor-intensive services in which they have a comparative advantage < do you mean emigration to the first world as guest workers ? come on stig this is a block buster you can't say "well we can solve latin america's problems let 100 milion of them move to the states to work here as exploited low skill or common skill guest labor"> . These were off the agenda in earlier trade rounds, < what ? immigration off the agenda or was it no is it still totally pre settled once and for all in a thousand diffinitive ways > as the US pushed for liberalization of financial services - thus serving its own comparative advantage. < remaking the big point comparative advantage false factor reification of finance as if its machinary thats where the states have a higher factor endowment "the built " productive capacity of the system of course its all about export of capital what we red thieves like to call modern imperialism anyway goood boy for aesopian mentions anyway > Today, unskilled services remain largely off the agenda . Developing countries' alleged gains from capital market liberalization have been widely discussed < 'allegedly gain" take a fucking stand waffling here is a crime stig a crime this is the essence the whole biz is about cap flows cap flows that really "work" for the trans nationals and consequently not incidently mostly do not "work" for the natives thats wally world the one way benefit of the export of capital see its kinda s like rape stig "well i liked it" out of one party to the intercourse ain't enough too bad stig you can't for professional reasons play it straight here and recognize the skipper's uniform as what it is his uniform period maybe u act like things could be different and stop there stop and never ask what would it take to actually make the possible real that too naughty i guess for a professional but if u did if u showed just exactly how bloody a series of up heavals lies between here and" fair " then maybe u'd forget drawing up these santas lists > (although recent studies raise some doubts about these benefits). < oooo too soft on the issue here stig "raise some doubts" why not carve the class picture here in its full relief and remove the ambiguity> Nevertheless, the global gains from allowing freer flows of unskilled labor (even temporarily) , let alone the benefits to developing countries, far outweigh the benefits from capital market liberalization. < this is nice labor can't move but capital can but where's the factor-klass cut inside each nation labor/capital to show the why why why > But this issue too is not on the agenda. The trade talks in Cancun raised new subjects - the so-called Singapore issues. But even a cursory look at these items reveals that they primarily reflect the interests of developed countries. <, what the wally boyz are still lettin self interest dictate> Indeed, poor countries' development would arguably have been set back if they had acquiesced in some of the demands. < again the wally worlders are willing to offer third raters "a worse world option" and with a smile too and why not if by emiserating the third raters u can boost "global" profit thats progress> Competition is another example. Without competition, lowering tariffs may merely be reflected in higher profit margins for a monopoly importer. < this is really fine fine fine stig if theonly "whos " that capturing the gains are " first world capitalists stockholders" then ... by the way stig this type of approach both showing the national and the class distribution of loses and gains is the only real approach and u know it and yet it's hardly peeked at by most observers cause for their various prolly damn god reasons they're not willing to klassify the gains of globalization > The most important competition issue for developing countries, however, is reform of dumping duties. < here is where both the rules and the refs cheat for the home team > The US and EU keep out products from developing countries, alleging that they charge less than the cost of production. But why would anyone knowingly sell at a loss? This could only be rational if the seller can hope to establish a monopoly position and extract large profits in the future. But few developing countries are in a position to establish such monopoly positions, < few? try none> so the dumping charges are mostly bogus. < bravo stig> As tariff barriers have come down, the unfair "fair trade" laws are increasingly being used as America's favored protectionist tool. < god damn stig wheres your sense of the role of exchange rates here what a huge huge hole the tilt here is key as is with the various trade fiddles wally world can buy third rate stuff in third rate countries with "over valued " dollars and at the same time protect "home markets" from an artificially cheap third world commodity flood by fucking with "the entry " of their undesirable "native owned "exports > Treating foreign and domestic firms the same with respect to competitive practices would stop these abuses. , so would a global prole revolution hard to tell which is likely to come first> The breakdown of the Cancun talks may yet provide an opportunity for deeper reflection. < by who?> Now that rich countries no longer need to worry about losing the developing world to Communism, < jesus stig hows that a help more a hinder i'd say if they can't lose the thirdees why bother helpin' em> they have an opportunity to redefine the global economic order < what what what christ that was in 89 when the red wall went down ,uncle joe 15 years ago a near eternity in global capital flow years look where china's gone in that period from 1950 wally made super profits in the third world because of the threat of communism? please oh great nobel winner cut the fuckin comedy besides its been 15 years 15 years and no change except to get worse what was that just bad habits hard to brake> they have an opportunity to redefine the global economic order acording to the same principles on which they built successful national economies: fair competition and social justice. < same as "national.".. why you sly old fox sheepy joe this makes the whole article worth the read the implied lack till now of any effective global strategy of "fair competition and social justice."> Unfortunately, this opportunity was squandered in the Uruguay Round, < thanks joe for going on the record again saying the world has yet to experience fairness and social justice in all the merry go "rounds " of the global trade and investment game > as developed countries advanced their own interests at the expense of less developed countries. < yes joe yes say again joe and again and again the record shows as of today wally wins means thirdees lose both national and klass interests are globally antagonistic > The round of trade negotiations begun in Doha in November 2001 was launched in a different spirit. < " different spirit says who and who believes em and if so why are they fuckin retarded ?> Doha aspired to promote trade as a vehicle of partnership between developed and developing countries. ,<" a vehicle of partnership" please stiggy don't set us up for the final fall so obviously here you look silly or is it a comic trip move meant to be seen avoided easily and laffed about > Regrettably, in spite of its name, the Development Round has offered far less to developing countries than one would have hoped . < ""regrettably" "offered far less " "then... hoped" fuck man why the ever so typical petty rad endsville raggedy andy shit a boo hoo so arch and bathetic as to be an insult why did u decide to end not with an end time trumpet blast but a wistful piper's flute >
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